Legislature(2015 - 2016)GRUENBERG 120

03/23/2016 01:00 PM House JUDICIARY

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01:06:55 PM Start
01:07:45 PM HB205
02:08:07 PM Adjourn
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE JUDICIARY STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         March 23, 2016                                                                                         
                           1:06 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gabrielle LeDoux, Chair                                                                                          
Representative Wes Keller, Vice Chair                                                                                           
Representative Bob Lynn                                                                                                         
Representative Charisse Millett                                                                                                 
Representative Matt Claman                                                                                                      
Representative Jonathan Kreiss-Tomkins                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Neal Foster                                                                                                      
Representative Kurt Olson (alternate)                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 205                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to conditions  of release; relating to community                                                               
work   service;  relating   to  credit   toward  a   sentence  of                                                               
imprisonment  for certain  persons  under electronic  monitoring;                                                               
relating  to the  restoration under  certain circumstances  of an                                                               
administratively  revoked driver's  license, privilege  to drive,                                                               
or  privilege  to  obtain  a license;  allowing  a  reduction  of                                                               
penalties  for offenders  successfully completing  court- ordered                                                               
treatment  programs for  persons convicted  of driving  under the                                                               
influence; relating to termination of  a revocation of a driver's                                                               
license; relating to restoration  of a driver's license; relating                                                               
to  credits  toward a  sentence  of  imprisonment, to  good  time                                                               
deductions, and to providing for  earned good time deductions for                                                               
prisoners;  relating  to  early   termination  of  probation  and                                                               
reduction of probation  for good conduct; relating  to the rights                                                               
of  crime victims;  relating to  the disqualification  of persons                                                               
convicted of  certain felony drug offenses  from participation in                                                               
the  food stamp  and temporary  assistance programs;  relating to                                                               
probation; relating to mitigating  factors; relating to treatment                                                               
programs   for  prisoners;   relating  to   the  duties   of  the                                                               
commissioner of  corrections; amending  Rule 32, Alaska  Rules of                                                               
Criminal Procedure; and providing for an effective date."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
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PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 205                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: CRIMINAL LAW/PROCEDURE; DRIV LIC; PUB AID                                                                          
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) MILLETT                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
AL TAMAGNI                                                                                                                      
National Federation of Independent Business                                                                                     
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  During the hearing of HB 205, offered                                                                    
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
BUTCH MOORE                                                                                                                     
Big Lake, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT:  During the hearing of HB 205, discussed                                                                  
possible amendments.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MELANIE BAHNKE, President                                                                                                       
Kawerak, Inc.                                                                                                                   
Nome, Alaska                                                                                                                    
POSITION  STATEMENT:   During  the  hearing  of HB  205,  offered                                                             
support for the bill.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MARNA SANDFORD                                                                                                                  
Tanana Chief's Conference                                                                                                       
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:   During  the  hearing  of HB  205,  offered                                                             
support for the bill.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CATIN WALSH                                                                                                                     
Community United for Safety and Protection (CUSP)                                                                               
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  During the hearing  of HB 205, was unable to                                                             
testify due to technical difficulties.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
VICKY WALNER                                                                                                                    
Stop Valley Thieves                                                                                                             
Palmer, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:   During the  hearing of  HB 205,  discussed                                                             
property crimes.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MARTY KINCAID                                                                                                                   
Palmer, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:   During the  hearing of  HB 201,  discussed                                                             
driving licenses.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
HELEN CROOM                                                                                                                     
Sterling, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION  STATEMENT:   During the  hearing  of HB  205, spoke  in                                                             
opposition.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JANET MCCABE                                                                                                                    
Partners for Progress                                                                                                           
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:   During  the  hearing  of HB  205,  offered                                                               
support.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
TERRA BURNS                                                                                                                     
Community United for Safety and Protection (CUSP)                                                                               
Nenana, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:   During  the  hearing  of HB  205,  offered                                                             
support.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
RIC LANNOLINO                                                                                                                   
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:   During the  hearing of  HB 205,  discussed                                                             
aspects of the bill.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ROBYN LANGLIE, Executive Director                                                                                               
Victims for Justice                                                                                                             
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:   During  the  hearing  of HB  205,  offered                                                             
concern.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
NIKKI HINES, Coordinator                                                                                                        
Fairbanks Reentry Coalition                                                                                                     
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:   During the  hearing of  HB 205,  discussed                                                             
reentry.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MARY SATTLER, Lobbyist                                                                                                          
Alaska Regional Coalition                                                                                                       
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:   During  the  hearing  of HB  205,  offered                                                             
support.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:06:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GABRIELLE  LEDOUX  called  the  House  Judiciary  Standing                                                             
Committee  meeting  back to  order  [from  recess] at  1:06  p.m.                                                               
Representatives Claman,  Keller, Lynn,  Millett, and  LeDoux were                                                               
present  at the  call  to order.   Representative  Kreiss-Tomkins                                                               
arrived as the meeting was in progress.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
        HB 205-CRIMINAL LAW/PROCEDURE; DRIV LIC; PUB AID                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:07:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX announced  that the only order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL  NO. 205, "An  Act relating to conditions  of release;                                                               
relating to community  work service; relating to  credit toward a                                                               
sentence  of imprisonment  for certain  persons under  electronic                                                               
monitoring;   relating   to   the   restoration   under   certain                                                               
circumstances  of an  administratively revoked  driver's license,                                                               
privilege to drive, or privilege  to obtain a license; allowing a                                                               
reduction  of  penalties  for offenders  successfully  completing                                                               
court-  ordered  treatment  programs  for  persons  convicted  of                                                               
driving  under  the  influence;  relating  to  termination  of  a                                                               
revocation of  a driver's license;  relating to restoration  of a                                                               
driver's  license;  relating  to  credits toward  a  sentence  of                                                               
imprisonment,  to  good time  deductions,  and  to providing  for                                                               
earned  good time  deductions for  prisoners;  relating to  early                                                               
termination  of probation  and reduction  of  probation for  good                                                               
conduct; relating  to the  rights of  crime victims;  relating to                                                               
the disqualification of persons  convicted of certain felony drug                                                               
offenses  from  participation in  the  food  stamp and  temporary                                                               
assistance   programs;  relating   to   probation;  relating   to                                                               
mitigating   factors;   relating   to  treatment   programs   for                                                               
prisoners;  relating  to  the  duties   of  the  commissioner  of                                                               
corrections;  amending   Rule  32,   Alaska  Rules   of  Criminal                                                               
Procedure; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
[Before  the House  Judiciary Standing  Committee  was CSHB  205,                                                               
labeled 29-LS0896\H, adopted in the 3/14/16 meeting.]                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LEDOUX   continued  public  testimony  and   advised  that                                                               
testimony is limited to three minutes per speaker.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:09:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AL   TAMAGNI,  National   Federation  of   Independent  Business,                                                               
referred  to the  felony theft  threshold increase  from $500  to                                                               
$2,000  and noted  it is  a 267  percent increase,  which affects                                                               
individuals,  local and  state  government and  others.   In  the                                                               
event there  is any  increase, he  asked whether  the legislature                                                               
had obtained  statistical information  from the  Anchorage Police                                                               
Department (APD)  in that he  was aware  of an APD  annual report                                                               
depicting the  types of crime  committed, and that  the committee                                                               
may  want  to  review  that  information on  the  internet.    He                                                               
suggested  that  if the  legislature  is  going to  increase  the                                                               
allowance  up  to $2,000,  from  a  thief's perspective  that  is                                                               
pretty good  because they  can almost steal  three times  as much                                                               
and pay the  same amount of fine which, he  described is not good                                                               
public policy.  In the event  that happens, he suggested that the                                                               
fines  should  be increased  by  267  percent and  increase  that                                                               
amount at three percent annually.   Due to the increase in fines,                                                               
one-third could go to the  state, one-third to the citing entity,                                                               
and one-third  to compensate  the victims for  their losses.   He                                                               
noted that this is a huge  jump with no statistics presented here                                                               
locally to indicate  what the numbers are from  the last increase                                                               
up to  $500.   He recommended that  if the  legislature increases                                                               
any value to the allowance beyond  what it currently is, that the                                                               
committee contact someone from the Anchorage Police Department.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:12:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLETT  related that this  is a policy  call this                                                               
committee would  have to make  on the  increase of theft  and its                                                               
impact on  the private sector  and businesses.   She said  she is                                                               
keeping his remarks in mind while moving forward.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LYNN stated  he anticipates  an amendment  with a                                                               
threshold of $750.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KELLER  surmised that Mr. Tamagni's  testimony was                                                               
if  the  threshold  is  raised,  the  committee  should  consider                                                               
balancing the fine level.   He offered to explore that suggestion                                                               
further.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TAMAGNI put  forth  that if  there will  be  an increase  to                                                               
$2,000  which is  a 267  percent  increase, the  fines should  be                                                               
equally raised  by 267  percent, and to  increase that  amount at                                                               
three percent annually.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:14:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CLAMAN asked  his  current  understanding of  the                                                               
maximum fines for misdemeanors.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAMAGNI responded that he is  not certain of the maximum, and                                                               
that possibly Representative Claman could assist.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CLAMAN noted  that  Mr. Tamagni  had proposed  an                                                               
interesting  idea  so he  took  a  quick  look at  AS  12.55.035,                                                               
wherein the  maximum fine for  a class A misdemeanor  is $10,000.                                                               
He then  offered a scenario  of raising the potential  fine level                                                               
from $10,000 to  $20,000, and asked whether Mr.  Tamagni would be                                                               
comfortable with raising the threshold amount for felonies.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAMAGNI asked how much.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CLAMAN explained  that the  proposal is  to raise                                                               
the felony  level to $2,000,  wherein a misdemeanor is  less than                                                               
$2,000.  He  referred to his question that if  the fine level for                                                               
misdemeanors was  raised from $10,000 to  $20,000, thereby giving                                                               
the judge the authority to possibly  fine at ten times the amount                                                               
the  person  was   stealing,  and  asked  whether   he  would  be                                                               
comfortable with increasing the felony theft threshold.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:15:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAMAGNI said it would be  acceptable only if it was raised to                                                               
$1,000  to  $1,500, with  the  provision  that one-third  of  the                                                               
increase would go to the  courts, one-third to the citing agency,                                                               
and one-third to the victim.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAMAGNI, in response to  Representative Claman, answered that                                                               
he was referring to the fine.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CLAMAN explained  that  the  discussion is  going                                                               
from $10,000 to $20,000, which is much more than $1,500.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAMAGNI asked about the percentages being equal.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   CLAMAN  offered   a  scenario   of  making   the                                                               
percentage  equal,  the equal  percentage  would  raise the  fine                                                               
level  to  a   maximum  fine  level  of  $25,000  so   it  was  a                                                               
proportional increase in the fine,  and asked whether he would be                                                               
comfortable with the felony theft threshold.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAMAGNI offered that it would be something to consider.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:16:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KELLER  asked the  two attorneys on  the committee                                                               
whether there  is a possibility  of building  restitution options                                                               
into a section  of law particular to this that  would specify the                                                               
damages going to the business owner.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX advised that this  discussion could take place after                                                               
public testimony is  completed, and commented that it  would be a                                                               
good idea.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KELLER  said he just  wanted it on the  record and                                                               
did not expect a discussion at this time.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CLAMAN  deferred to  the  Department  of Law,  or                                                               
Public   Defender's  Office   to  discuss   how  restitution   is                                                               
incorporated.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:18:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BUTCH MOORE, said he is the  father of Bree Moore, and noted that                                                               
HB  44 was  sponsored  by  Charisse Millett  and  he thanked  the                                                               
committee for  passing the bill  to keep  our children safe.   He                                                               
referred to a 3/22/16 email  from him containing seven items that                                                               
could be  possible amendments.   He  said he  and his  wife spent                                                               
time with Ann Seymour of the  PEW Charitable Trust and they agree                                                               
with the three components it  recommended, as follows: taking the                                                               
lesser offenders and giving them  a lesser sentence to not create                                                               
criminals   that   just   made  a   mistake;   reinvestment   and                                                               
reintegrating  people  back into  the  community  to educate  and                                                               
prevent crime; and become harsher on the most violent offenders.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:19:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MOORE  related that the  purpose of HB  205 is to  save money                                                               
and accomplish those three different items.   He noted that SB 91                                                               
includes changes that  it do not apply to anyone  convicted of an                                                               
unclassified  felony,   sexual  felony,  or  a   crime  involving                                                               
domestic  violence so  that would  exclude the  easier sentencing                                                               
for these people.  He offered testimony as follows:                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Another item that I have is  number six and, I think it                                                                    
     is very important,  and I can use it  to apply directly                                                                    
     to  our situation  is  that when  someone  is by  court                                                                    
     order put on  parole or probation they  have an alcohol                                                                    
     restriction, which  means they cannot  consume alcohol.                                                                    
     Their license  should be surrendered.   In other words,                                                                    
     when they  check out  of jail  or when  they're bailed,                                                                    
     they should not have their  license given back to them.                                                                    
     Um,  they should  be given  a  state ID  or a  driver's                                                                    
     license  with the  red  bars on  it  that say  "alcohol                                                                    
     prohibited."    In  our particular  case,  Josh  Almeda                                                                    
     walked  into a  liquor  store and  bought  a bottle  of                                                                    
     alcohol, got  drunk, and killed  our daughter.   He was                                                                    
     on  probation and  he was  on  alcohol restriction  but                                                                    
     they  had not  taken his  license away.   So,  that was                                                                    
     number six on my list.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     We have  Cindy scheduled  to speak  next and  if she'll                                                                    
     let me speak for her.   She's asked me if I would speak                                                                    
     for her  because she's not feeling  like talking today,                                                                    
     if that's acceptable.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX replied, certainly.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Um, I think the biggest  thing that we need to address,                                                                    
     and the purpose for this bill  is to save money, and to                                                                    
     help  our society  in general  not to  create criminals                                                                    
     where we  have been.  And  so, I think, and  correct me                                                                    
     if I'm wrong, but our  prison population has doubled in                                                                    
     the last ten years.   The majority of that is pretrial,                                                                    
     people awaiting  trial and  awaiting sentencing.   And,                                                                    
     Josh  Almeda, who  killed our  daughter,  is a  perfect                                                                    
     example.   If it  was not for  our persistence  and the                                                                    
     pressure that we've applied  to the prosecutor's office                                                                    
     and  to the  defense attorney,  we wouldn't  be as  far                                                                    
     along in  the process as we  are now.  We're  coming up                                                                    
     on  two   years,  Josh  Almeda   still  has   not  been                                                                    
     sentenced.   So, when  we look at  the problem  that we                                                                    
     have and the overcrowding that  we have in our prisons,                                                                    
     let's look  at really where  the problem is.   And, the                                                                    
     problem  is 93  percent  of that  increase  are --  are                                                                    
     people   awaiting   trial,  or   awaiting   sentencing,                                                                    
     defendants.   And, the strategy, just  like the defense                                                                    
     attorney for  Josh Almeda,  Andrew Lambert  has another                                                                    
     murder trial down  in Kenai and his  only strategy, the                                                                    
     only way  that a  ... these  defense attorneys  can run                                                                    
     these  cases  are to  put  the  cases  off as  long  as                                                                    
     possible  where  the  witnesses,  the  detectives,  the                                                                    
     prosecutors,  the judges  will quit,  die, retire,  get                                                                    
     fired, move,  or forget.   And so,  it is a  benefit to                                                                    
     the defense  attorney and the  defendant to put  it off                                                                    
     as long  as possible.   And what my suggestion  is, and                                                                    
     what I would submit to  you, is the overcrowding in the                                                                    
     prisons that  we have are  people awaiting trial.   And                                                                    
     so,  if we  were  to say  that  if, and  we  have --  a                                                                    
     statute that  says we,  as a  victim and  the defendant                                                                    
     have  a right  to a  speedy disposition,  which is  120                                                                    
     days.   So,  in the  case of  Josh Almeda,  he did  not                                                                    
     plead guilty until over a  year after the offense.  So,                                                                    
     if he  was only  to be  given 120  days' worth  of jail                                                                    
     time credit  towards his final  sentence he  would have                                                                    
     motivation  to get  out of  jail.   In other  words, if                                                                    
     he's in  jail for three  years and he only  gets credit                                                                    
     for  120  days,  then  all these  defendants  would  be                                                                    
     pressuring  and pushing  their  attorneys  to get  them                                                                    
     into  --  into trial  immediately.    That's where  the                                                                    
     overcrowding is and that's what's  happened in our case                                                                    
     with Josh  Almeda and many  other defendants.   And the                                                                    
     other thing  I would submit  with that, is if  they are                                                                    
     in jail for  three years or two years, and  I talked to                                                                    
     the  district attorney's  office  today  and they  have                                                                    
     some cases that have gone  five and six years where the                                                                    
     state is paying to house  defendants.  And, after -- if                                                                    
     after 120  days the  defendants are screaming  at their                                                                    
     attorneys saying  "I'm not getting any  credit for this                                                                    
     time, so  if I'm sentenced  to ten years and  I've been                                                                    
     in  jail for  five, I  effectively only  get 120  days'                                                                    
     worth of credit."   This is where all  the pressure and                                                                    
     all the  overcrowding is.   And I think that  there's a                                                                    
     way  that we  can  pass  a law,  we  can eliminate  the                                                                    
     majority  of the  changes in  HB  205, and  SB 91,  and                                                                    
     really address  what the problem  is.  It'll  be better                                                                    
     for   victims   because    they'll   get   a   speedier                                                                    
     disposition.    The  people you're  going  to  get  the                                                                    
     objections from  are going to be  the defense attorneys                                                                    
     because they  will not be  able to drag these  -- these                                                                    
     times out  where they're coming  up with two  and three                                                                    
     and  four  and five  years  billing  their clients  and                                                                    
     their  client's  families  the  whole  time.    And  in                                                                    
     addition,   maybe  we   should  consider   billing  the                                                                    
     defendants if  they're found guilty for  the additional                                                                    
     time past 120  days if it's continued at their  a -- at                                                                    
     their request or their attorneys request.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MOORE  noted that  he  was  unable  to  address all  of  the                                                               
suggestions contained  within his  email, and the  committee will                                                               
find they are good suggestions.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX thanked  Mr. and Mrs. Moore for  their testimony and                                                               
their suggestions.  She noted that  she was a co-sponsor on HB 44                                                               
and offered her condolences on their loss.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:26:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MELANIE BAHNKE,  President, Kawerak,  Inc., said  she is  the co-                                                               
chair  of  the  Council  for Advancement  of  Alaska  Natives,  a                                                               
committee of  the Alaska  Federation of  Natives.   She explained                                                               
that  the  Council is  comprised  of  the  presidents of  the  12                                                               
regional  non-profit  tribal  consortiums throughout  the  state.                                                               
She related that  they support HB 205 as it  will help to restore                                                               
healthy  communities,  improve  public  safety,  save  the  state                                                               
money, and  expand treatment and  services.  She  further related                                                               
that  a  couple of  weeks  ago,  staff  from the  Anvil  Mountain                                                               
Correctional  Center  attended  a joint  health  corporation  and                                                               
board meeting,  and the information  they shared  highlighted the                                                               
need for  changes to  the criminal justice  system.   She pointed                                                               
out that the  vast majority of inmates within  Alaska's jails are                                                               
Alaska Natives  with low incomes,  and most are  incarcerated due                                                               
to alcohol related crimes and  suffering from substance abuse and                                                               
mental health  issues.   Anecdotally, she  said, the  local crime                                                               
blotter  weekly  shows  a  high   number  of  people  listed  for                                                               
probation  violations.   A  few  months  ago, the  Alaska  Mental                                                               
Health  Trust Authority  visited the  region, and  at that  point                                                               
Commission Taylor  was heading up the  Department of Corrections.                                                               
A comment  Commissioner Taylor related  struck her in  that, "his                                                               
department is  basically the largest mental  health and substance                                                               
abuse facility in the State  of Alaska, but without the resources                                                               
for substance abuse and mental  health treatment," she said.  She                                                               
reiterated that she supports HB  205, and especially within every                                                               
provision   that  aligns   with  the   Alaska  Criminal   Justice                                                               
Commission report issued December 2015.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:30:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARNA SANDFORD,  Tanana Chief's Conference, said  that the Tanana                                                               
Chief's Conference  is in  support of  HB 205.   She  referred to                                                               
some of  the concerns presented  today, and expressed that  it is                                                               
important  for the  committee to  remember  that communities  are                                                               
looking to  the legislators  as leaders to  help Alaskans  do the                                                               
right thing  here.  As members  of the community, they  can often                                                               
be afraid that these kinds of  bills are just going to be handing                                                               
the keys to the jail to  people.  Although, she said, everyone in                                                               
Alaska  can  go the  web  site  of  the Alaska  Criminal  Justice                                                               
Commission  and review  the studies.   She  pointed out  that the                                                               
current  criminal  justice  system   has  not  worked  and  until                                                               
everyone buys in  together as Alaskans to allow  these changes to                                                               
take  place Alaska  won't  have  less victims.    The state  will                                                               
continue to  have more, and  more victims if the  state continues                                                               
to  operate  within  its  current system.    She  encouraged  the                                                               
committee to  keep the version  in front  of them intact  and not                                                               
water  it down  because it  will make  many positive  changes and                                                               
once  Alaskans allow  the provisions  to get  moving and  see the                                                               
effects, in that all Alaskans will be better off.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:32:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CATIN WALSH,  Community United for Safety  and Protection (CUSP),                                                               
said they are a group of current [technical difficulties].                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX advised  Ms. Walsh that her  testimony was difficult                                                               
to decipher and asked her to start from the beginning.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. WALSH offered to call back on another line.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:34:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICKY WALNER, Stop Valley Thieves,  said that Stop Valley Thieves                                                               
is  based in  the Valley  and  is an  online group  similar to  a                                                               
neighborhood watch group with approximately  11,000 members.  She                                                               
stressed that the group encourages  vigilance and not vigilantes.                                                               
She  put forth  that  she  speaks on  behalf  of  the victims  of                                                               
property crimes,  and noted  that the  focus of  this bill  is on                                                               
low-level non-violent offenders, such as  property crime.  Due to                                                               
property  crime being  considered a  non-violent offense,  little                                                               
consideration is  given to  the impact of  property crime  on its                                                               
victims.  Yet, she offered,  that impact is financial, emotional,                                                               
physical,  spiritual,  the ripple  effect  of  property crime  on                                                               
neighborhoods,  communities, people  such  as Mid-Town,  Mountain                                                               
View, Meadow  Lakes, is  very real  and it  erodes and  tears the                                                               
social fabric  of communities.   Property  crime accounts  for 81                                                               
percent of the  crime in Alaska, she stated, but  only 17 percent                                                               
of the people incarcerated are  there due to property crimes, and                                                               
this  bill will  lower  the levels  of  incarceration even  more.                                                               
Victims of property  crimes feel helpless and  hopeless when they                                                               
report  a burglary  or a  car theft  because there  may not  be a                                                               
physical   police   response,   only  a   telephone   call,   and                                                               
fingerprints are not taken, no  pictures, and most people believe                                                               
no one cares.   The provisions lowering the threshold  of class C                                                               
felony theft is not only  insulting to victims of property crime,                                                               
but it reinforces  the belief that they not real  people who have                                                               
been harmed.   She  asked, who  cares and  since when  should the                                                               
majority of  offenders no  longer be  held accountable  for their                                                               
actions.  People on the street  are asking for treatment who have                                                               
not  committed  a crime  and  can't  get  into the  limited  beds                                                               
available  because  the state  is  clogging  them up  with  court                                                               
ordered offenders.  She asked  why the state can't hold offenders                                                               
accountable  by putting  them in  jail and  giving the  carrot of                                                               
incentive  by linking  their early  release to  in-house programs                                                               
which are being underutilized, such  as the Residential Substance                                                               
Abuse  Program  (RSAP),  and the  Life  Success  Substance  Abuse                                                               
Treatment (LSSAT).  Last year  only 601 prisoners completed LSSAT                                                               
and only  152 completed RSAP and  worse yet, she point  out, only                                                               
23 offenders  last year got their  GED.  There are  comments that                                                               
the  prisons  are full  with  the  ten  year increase  of  prison                                                               
population but, she encouraged the  committee to look at the five                                                               
year prison  population wherein the  population increased  by 124                                                               
individuals.    She stated  that  from  2013  to 2015  the  state                                                               
increased its prison population by  three people.  Therefore, the                                                               
state is  making headway  in reducing  the population  with House                                                               
Bill 50 and Senate  Bill 64, and the state can  reduce it in this                                                               
bill by  enacting the  barriers to reentry  and the  DMV portion.                                                               
She stressed  that this bill  is opposed by the  Anchorage Police                                                               
Department  Employees  Association,  the  Alaska  Peace  Officers                                                               
Association, a number of small  law enforcement agencies, and the                                                               
Office  of  Victims'  Rights because  they  are  concerned  about                                                               
public safety.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:40:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARTY KINCAID, read her testimony as follows:                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     I want  to just  read cause it'll  make concise  what I                                                                    
     wrote to my senators  and representatives concerning SB
     91,  HB 205,  and HB  276.   I am  so thankful  for the                                                                    
     above-referenced bills that  are before the legislature                                                                    
     regarding the current DUI laws.   My concern is for the                                                                    
     individuals who have previously  lost their license for                                                                    
     life.    Do these  bills  provide  any hope  for  them?                                                                    
     Understandably,  public   safety  is  of   the  highest                                                                    
     concern  but   there  should   be  a   balance  between                                                                    
     corrective punishment  and providing  opportunities for                                                                    
     men and  women to be restored.   Currently, individuals                                                                    
     that  have had  three or  more DUIs  within a  ten year                                                                    
     period are  branded as a  class B felony and  have lost                                                                    
     their  license   for  life  with  the   possibility  of                                                                    
     restoration  after ten  years.   What  has happened  to                                                                    
     these  men and  women that  have floundered  within the                                                                    
     system as  treatment programs  were unavailable  at the                                                                    
     time.   The goal  of any  new legislation  should allow                                                                    
     past  offenders  the  same opportunity  as  present  or                                                                    
     future  violators   to  be   healed  and   restored  as                                                                    
     productive   members   to   their  families   and   the                                                                    
     community.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     And  then  I wrote  this  to  Representative Tilton  in                                                                    
     response  to  the HB  93  that  she mentioned,  or  the                                                                    
     Frontiersman  mentioned, and  uh in  talking about  the                                                                  
     house bill  as being  fine in keeping  from employment.                                                                    
     And I  said, one critical  area in finding  and keeping                                                                    
     gainful  employment is  the ability  to drive.   Losing                                                                    
     one's license  for life  suffocates any  possibility of                                                                    
     attaining  that employment.   Along  with checking  off                                                                    
     the  box that  the applicant  has been  convicted of  a                                                                    
     felony greatly  inhibits the possibility of  even a job                                                                    
     interview.   There  needs to  be measures  in place  to                                                                    
     balance public  safety with redeeming  productive lives                                                                    
     for past,  present, and  future offenders.   Treatment,                                                                    
     restrictive license, ignition  monitors, etc., are some                                                                    
     possibilities.   And Butch Moore had  an excellent idea                                                                    
     about  marking  a driver's  license  with  red bars  or                                                                    
     something so they weren't able to buy any alcohol.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     And um, the  other thought I had on this  was that when                                                                    
     there is  no harm  to person  or property,  maybe there                                                                    
     should  be different  levels or  degrees of  offense so                                                                    
     that not all DUI offenders  are thrown into losin [sic]                                                                    
     license for life  and a class B felony,  when there has                                                                    
       been no harm to person or property.  Um, thank you                                                                       
     very much.  Any questions?                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:43:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HELEN CROOM said  she has lived in Sterling for  38 years and the                                                               
town has had a tremendous amount  of property theft.  She pointed                                                               
to the  DUI provision and related  that her mother was  blind and                                                               
rode a taxi  to work, and she agrees with  Mr. Moore's suggestion                                                               
of 120  days.  Property  stolen that amounts  to $750 may  not be                                                               
much  too some  people,  but  "I'm going  to  tell you  somethin,                                                               
that's  money at  our house.   And  to say  they've got  to steal                                                               
$2,000  worth  of  stuff  from  us  before  they're  really  held                                                               
accountable is just absolutely unacceptable  in my opinion."  She                                                               
related that  the reinvestment  piece is a  program that  will be                                                               
cut somewhere down the road, and  it has no weight whatsoever for                                                               
her.   All it will do  is increase victims and  possibly decrease                                                               
the prison population,  which she stated she did  not believe was                                                               
true, it  will just  go back  to paying  victims which  means the                                                               
state will be raising more and  more victims.  This bill makes it                                                               
difficult  for the  public  to maintain  their  own property  and                                                               
difficult for  law enforcement, who  are against this bill.   She                                                               
related that she is 100 percent  against this bill as it is going                                                               
in  the  wrong direction,  and  that  reentry and  rehabilitation                                                               
should  take place  in-house.   She said  that reentry  should be                                                               
community   based,  and   opined   that  it   should  be   Alaska                                                               
Correctional Ministries, Teen Challenge,  and the state should be                                                               
able to  rally other  organizations to  take it  over and  it may                                                               
relieve some of the cost.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:48:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JANET MCCABE, Partners for Progress,  responded that the Board of                                                               
Directors  for Partners  for Progress  is in  full support  of HB
205.  Adoption of this omnibus  reform bill would make Alaska one                                                               
of the  leaders in change  that has  long been needed  by Alaska,                                                               
and the  nation.  This  bill is the result  of a large  amount of                                                               
research and  study by the  PEW Charitable Trust,  public safety,                                                               
and the justice reinvestment group  who partnered with the Alaska                                                               
Criminal Justice Commission.  She  said, the PEW Charitable Trust                                                               
used a  multi-variant analysis which  is the highest  standard of                                                               
research,  it simply  means  looking at  a  topic from  different                                                               
perspectives and studies to assure  the accuracy of the findings.                                                               
As  a   result,  their  recommendations  are   solidly  based  on                                                               
excellent evidence and  changes in the bill will  have a positive                                                               
outcome  for  public  safety  and cost  savings.    Partners  for                                                               
Progress  sees  the  primary  benefits   of  this  bill  in  five                                                               
categories,  as  follows:  for the  state's  budget  by  avoiding                                                               
expenditure for the expanded prison  capacity; for overall public                                                               
safety by  reducing crime; for  victims by  preventing additional                                                               
victimization and  facilitating payment  of restitution;  for the                                                               
welfare of  the individual's families and  children involved; and                                                               
for the good of the whole community that is Alaska.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:51:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TERRA BURNS,  Community United for Safety  and Protection (CUSP),                                                               
said  Community United  for  Safety and  Protection  (CUSP) is  a                                                               
group of former and current  Alaskan sex workers, sex trafficking                                                               
victims,  and its  allies, working  toward safety  and protection                                                               
for everyone in  Alaska's sex industry, and  offered testimony as                                                               
follows:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     We're strongly  in support of  HB 205.  House  Bill 205                                                                    
     is  a  timely fix  to  statutes  that no  longer  serve                                                                    
     Alaskans.   House Bill  205 is  an important  step that                                                                    
     has  to  be  taken  now  in  light  of  evidence  based                                                                    
     research   in   combination   with   Alaska's   reduced                                                                    
     financial circumstances.   We don't want  Alaska to end                                                                    
     up like  California with no  money and a  prison system                                                                    
     in  federal  receivership.   We  support  HB  205  also                                                                    
     because  there are  members of  our  community who  are                                                                    
     serving  really long  prison sentences  for, you  know,                                                                    
     what  are defined  as  crimes  against public  decency.                                                                    
     And if  HB 205 passed  it would allow those  members of                                                                    
     our community to  be at home with their  children.  Um,                                                                    
     and to not, you know,  have them lose their housing and                                                                    
     become  a burden  on the  state  when they  get out  of                                                                    
     prison.  We would like to  see language added to HB 205                                                                    
     to address the needs of  victims and witnesses of crime                                                                    
     by  including language  from  SB 21.    Senate Bill  21                                                                    
     clarifies that  -- clarifies and updates  the intent of                                                                    
     the prostitution  statute and expands public  safety by                                                                    
     including 16  violent crimes that victims  or witnesses                                                                    
     would be allowed to report  without the threat of being                                                                    
     charged with prostitution,  um, and this is  needed.  I                                                                    
     did research  at UAF in  my graduate degree in  2014, I                                                                    
     consulted  with 48  people who  had worked  recently in                                                                    
     Alaska's sex trade.  Seventy-four  percent of them said                                                                    
     that they  had been  the victim or  witness of  a crime                                                                    
     that they  did not report  because they were  afraid of                                                                    
     being charged  with prostitution.  Of  the sub-group of                                                                    
     people who did try to  report crimes and who could also                                                                    
     be defined,  federally, as sex trafficking  victims, 80                                                                    
     percent of them said that  they were turned away by the                                                                    
     police, and  60 percent said  they were reported  -- or                                                                    
     threatened with  arrest, and  33 percent  were actually                                                                    
     arrested  while they  were trying  to report  that they                                                                    
     had been the victim or witness of a crime.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     We urge your support for HB  205, and ask you to please                                                                    
     include the  language from  SB 21.   It is  against our                                                                    
     Alaskan values  to allow criminals  to target  our most                                                                    
     vulnerable community  members with  impunity.   Um, and                                                                    
     in  considering amending  HB 205  with the  language to                                                                    
     protect victims  from [HB]  205, we  ask you  to please                                                                    
     include five  additional crimes  that people  should be                                                                    
     able to  report without  being charged,  um, extortion,                                                                    
     coercion,  and robbery  are the  crimes  that are  most                                                                    
     frequently  committed  against   sex  workers  and  sex                                                                    
     trafficking  victims.   And then  while  they are  less                                                                    
     common we think it's  also really important that people                                                                    
     be  able  to  report  sexual assault  of  a  minor,  or                                                                    
     possession   or  distribution   of  child   pornography                                                                    
     without  -- you  know, with  confidence that  they will                                                                    
     not be charged with prostitution  as a result of making                                                                    
     that  report.   Reconfiguring the  many statutes  in HB
     205 are a  priority and so must  be protecting Alaska's                                                                    
     most  vulnerable  with  language  from SB  21  in  this                                                                    
     Twenty-Ninth legislative session.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Thank you  so much  for hearing my  testimony and  I am                                                                    
     available for any questions.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:55:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RIC  LANNOLINO said  he  is  retired and  testifying  on his  own                                                               
behalf.   His background includes  being a previous  board member                                                               
for Juneau  Alliance for Mental  Health, and the  coordinator for                                                               
the  Fetal Alcoholic  Spectrum Diagnostic  Clinic.   Clearly,  he                                                               
related, when  the PEW Charitable  Trust and the  Alaska Criminal                                                               
Justice Commission  is performing  evidenced based  research, the                                                               
information  is  solid.   Speaking  within  his experiences  with                                                               
clients when he was with the  clinic, he said that a large number                                                               
of his adult clients with  Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder (FASD)                                                               
were in  and out  of prison  for low-level crimes  with a  lot of                                                               
expense  to  the  system.     He  noted  that  house  arrest  and                                                               
electronic monitoring worked well  with their clients, people who                                                               
had businesses,  people who were  working could keep  their jobs,                                                               
and it kept the community safe.   He said he takes classes at the                                                               
University  of  Alaska  Southeast   (UAS)  and  knows  there  are                                                               
students who  are successful and their  electronic monitor allows                                                               
them to go to class and to housing,  and that is all they can do.                                                               
Eventually, he noted, the students  get off electronic monitoring                                                               
and are  successful students with  high grades.  He  related that                                                               
he takes  a UAS class  in the prison  that is half  students, and                                                               
half inside students.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:56:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. LANNOLINO pointed out that  treatment care services and after                                                               
care services  related to reentry  are vital  in this bill.   The                                                               
entire country is  dealing with geriatric offenders  who are old,                                                               
some can't  walk, and have  expensive medical bills.   He related                                                               
that  these offenders  shouldn't be  in an  institutional setting                                                               
with the costs and budget issues  Alaska faces as they can return                                                               
safely to the  community.  When his clients went  into prison, he                                                               
pointed out, they  went to the school for  scoundrels and learned                                                               
anti-social  coping  mechanisms.    These people  came  out  with                                                               
criminal friends who  set them up to perform  crimes because they                                                               
didn't understand  the consequences of  their actions due  to the                                                               
brain damage  with FASD.   He wanted to  keep his clients  out of                                                               
prison as  prison was  not appropriate,  but there  weren't other                                                               
places for them at that time.   Alaska needs to use some of these                                                               
other mechanism that the bill provides, he stressed.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:58:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN  pointed to testimony offered  last night and                                                               
said that  at least one  sex offender  had been arrested  by this                                                               
testifier  who committed  a sex  offense to  a child  while in  a                                                               
wheelchair.  He related that it does happen regardless of age.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:59:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROBYN LANGLIE, Executive Director,  Victims for Justice, said her                                                               
main concern  is the reinvestment  portion of  HB 205 and  SB 91,                                                               
which has  been discussed as  the main component of  the criminal                                                               
justice reinvestment by putting that  money back into the system.                                                               
She  urged the  committee  to not  get caught  up  in the  fiscal                                                               
crunch of  the state and  to consider  the fact that  Alaska does                                                               
need to put the money back into  mental health.  It is known that                                                               
the Department of  Corrections is the biggest  provider of mental                                                               
health in the  state currently.  More sex  offender training must                                                               
be provided,  more substance abuse  programs, and she  noted that                                                               
heroin is on the rise, and  alcohol has been a consistent problem                                                               
for  many years.   Without  reinvestment, this  bill will  not go                                                               
anywhere and her concern is  that nothing is actually outlined in                                                               
the bill  or outlined in the  fiscal notes.  The  Alaska criminal                                                               
system is  broken for the  offenders, victims, and  that everyone                                                               
wants  to  see  it  changed  but changed  in  a  responsible  and                                                               
respectful  manner for  all people  and  especially victims,  she                                                               
said.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:01:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX noted that the  reinvestment piece will be discussed                                                               
next week.  She stressed that  the bill is not moving without the                                                               
reinvestment component  and that  the legislature is  fully aware                                                               
of how critical that piece is to the bill.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:02:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NIKKI HINES, Coordinator,  Fairbanks Reentry Coalition, described                                                               
herself as the  person who sits face-to-face  with the reentrants                                                               
prior to  their release to the  halfway house.  Of  great concern                                                               
to her  is the allowance of  a license and earning  the privilege                                                               
back  of  having  a  driver's  license.   In  speaking  with  the                                                               
inmates, they  see zero hope  in being  able to return  back into                                                               
the community  and provide a  stable work  environment, attending                                                               
to  probation  requirements  or doctor's  appointments,  and  the                                                               
normal  things a  person does  throughout the  day that  requires                                                               
having  a  car.    Public  transportation  in  Fairbanks  is  not                                                               
conducive to  someone trying to  get back into the  community and                                                               
she related  that riding  a bike is  difficult during  the winter                                                               
months.     She  said  she   fully  supports  allowing   for  the                                                               
reinstatement of  the driver's license after  completion of their                                                               
conditions.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:04:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARY  SATTLER,  Lobbyist,  Alaska Regional  Coalition,  said  the                                                               
Alaska  Regional Coalition  represents tribes  from five  regions                                                               
and  the  Coalition  is united  behind  the  comments  previously                                                               
stated by the Kawerak Region and  the Tanana Chiefs Council.  She                                                               
said  her organization  believes  that criminals  should be  held                                                               
accountable,  but  it is  also  interested  in making  sure  that                                                               
people  who  have  found  themselves  involved  in  the  criminal                                                               
justice  system can  find their  way home,  and the  Coalition is                                                               
interested in  making sure  there are  healthy communities.   The                                                               
impact  to victims  is  not  lost on  them  because  many of  the                                                               
victims of  these crimes  are family  members and  friends within                                                               
their own  communities.   The Coalition wants  to make  sure that                                                               
all  Alaskans  can  be  productive  citizens  and  can  seek  the                                                               
treatment many need, and it supports this legislation, she said.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:06:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   KELLER  put   forth  that   the  Department   of                                                               
Corrections (DOC)  will be working  on risk assessment  tools and                                                               
he  encouraged her  organization to  work with  DOC to  make sure                                                               
those  risk assessment  tools are  appropriate for  the needs  in                                                               
rural Alaska.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SATTLER advised  that they  are looking  forward to  working                                                               
with  the Department  of  Corrections  on the  tools  it will  be                                                               
using.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:07:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 2:07 p.m. to 2:08 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:08:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LEDOUX  after  ascertaining   no  one  further  wished  to                                                               
testify, advised that public testimony would be held open.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[HB 205 was held over.]                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Judiciary Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 2:08 p.m.                                                                 

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